Lorrie: Thank you. I’m happy to be here.

JJ: I’m looking forward to this show: Tapping into Your Psychic Ability. So, very impressive résumé, and I want you to share with us when that all started. Like when did you know you were psychic?

Lorrie: Well, when people ask me that, I always wonder, “When did you know you weren’t psychic?” And I guess, truthfully, for me, I didn’t think of it as being psychic but being intuitive. And years later, when I was part of a study, I was studied as one of those highly sensitive people. Why do people like me pick up on other people’s thoughts and feelings and things that happen in the world? So I was part of a study and they said that Edgar Cayce, the most documented psychic in history, said that intuition was actually really profound, in some ways more important than the psychic. The psychic might tell you you’re going to see a person in a blue shirt on such and such a street on Thursday, but what intuition does is guide you in your life and how to deal with things and how to create things. So having them work together is really powerful. So when I was studied by them, many years later from when I was an adult, I ended up working as a psychic. I was in a study called Battered Boundaries where a bunch of us were studied for why we were picking up on so many things that was really none of our business.

As a child, I guess I was different. I mean, that’s how my uncle always says. I seem different to him. But I was sensitive. I was sensitive to things. There was a lot of chaos in my home and my mother would ask me to predict things. What was my father going to do? What was going to happen? I’ve done a regression where I’ve gone back… I’m sure some of your listeners are going to think this is nuts, but you can go through a hypnotic process where you can go back to the womb. And I can go back to connecting with my mother from the womb and thinking things about what she was thinking. So I didn’t know that was psychic. I didn’t think of it as being psychic. I thought of it as being able to take care of myself and depend on myself by knowing certain things that were chaotic in my world, to be able to predict how bad they would be and if I could get myself out of the way before they happened or conduct myself in such a way that I wouldn’t set somebody, one of my parents, off. And so that was my life. I just always depended on that skill to know which way to go, which way not to go.

JJ: At what point did you decide it was psychic or highly intuitive?

Lorrie: Well, I knew I’d had a lot of experiences of knowing when someone was going to die or picking up on things. And I think it was around I was graduating from getting my master’s degree in writing, so grad school in the early ‘90s, and I had read something in one of the Edgar Cayce magazines about people writing in to say if you had had certain kinds of experiences. They were looking for people who had had these experiences. And I wrote a letter to Dr. Henry Reed and I talked about having had those experiences, but they were looking for people who had negative experiences and I had positive and negative. If I’d sit next to anybody, they’d be thinking something and suddenly I’d start thinking it and I’d be thinking, “Why am I thinking about this? I don’t even know why this is coming into my mind.” And then the person might say something.

So I wrote to Henry Reed and told him about that. And as I was graduating and things were kind of falling apart, strangely enough, I got a call from him saying they wanted me to be part of this Battered Boundaries study. And I had forgotten I had written a letter and I was saying, “Well, you don’t want me. You don’t want people with negative things. And I have negative and positive, and I’m just getting my master’s degree.” And he said, “No, that’s great. You’re getting it in writing and that’s very right-brained. And people tend to be right-brained who are intuitive, so be part of this study.” So I think in my life, being more introverted and one of those people that people said, “Oh, you’re too sensitive,” I always thought, “You don’t want me. It’s not me. Whatever it is you’re looking for, it’s not me.” And I think because having grown up where you tell people stuff that you see and they say “You don’t see that. I don’t see that. That’s not happening,” and then it happens. So I had so much of that in my life and I was having that even as I was going through this master’s program where I pick up on something. I had a tendency to pick up on the thing that nobody was supposed to know and I thought everybody knew so I might say it out loud, and it would cause a bit of a problem.

And so when the psychic came in, the idea of working as a psychic, I was part of this study and we had a couple of different assignments. And one of the assignments, they paired us up with an Atlantic University student, and the student and I were supposed to do this process where… The student who was paired with me was in Virginia, so she was three hours ahead of me in Los Angeles. So 6:00 my time and 9:00 her time, we were supposed to tune into each other and meditate on each other and see what we got. And we were doing this I think for a month or more. And I got all sorts of information and all sorts of warnings for the person that I was set up with. And in fact, I was very concerned about some things that she was doing in her life. So what we found was a lot of us ended up being used like the person’s personal psychic because we were getting so much information.

Edgar Cayce, as I mentioned, talked about… Really I’ve never seen anybody read to the extent Edgar Cayce did. I know there are people who say they can. I’ve yet to see it. And he talked about that we all have this in us and that some of the tools to connect with your soul, to connect with other people were like doing this simultaneous meditation. So I was paired with two different people. And it seems as if everybody who was part of that study ultimately ended up doing some work in the psychic world because we did become like personal psychics to people. Oh, and what we also… The study was what I actually ended up because nobody really wrote up the study, so I took this stuff and tried to find out “So what do we find at the end of it? Like being this highly sensitive person, what does it mean? Why are you given this?”

And one of the things that came out of it is that if you’re feeling, if you’re having these psychic episodes or intuitive episodes, a lot of times it scares people. “I shouldn’t know this. Why am I picking up on this?” or “I don’t want to be weird.” But it’s kind of like the universe is giving you a nudge and saying, “You need to develop this in yourself.” Everybody has it. Cayce in his readings said, “Everybody could do this.” Well, how? He created the search for God study groups because he talked about and I tend to agree with it. Why I bring up Cayce so much and I am a reader for the Cayce Institute, but why I so connect with Cayce is because he was really a spiritual mystic and he talked about if you want to be more psychic, be more spiritual. And I’ve gone through so many really hellish times in my life, for a shortcut way of saying it, that I’ve had to use…no matter how spiritual I think I am or I’m a good person, it’s kind of like how can I connect deeper? How can I cooperate more with other people and not make people I don’t like the enemy or work on things in myself? There are a lot of people that teach techniques. There are techniques of grounding and we can talk about all of that stuff and they’re good techniques, but my feeling goes back to what Cayce said, which is the kind of person you are, who you’re being, meditating. He talked very much about meditating and connecting with your higher self. Well, for him, because he was a Christian mystic, he talked about the Christ consciousness. And you could call it Christ. If you’re Jewish or you’re Hindu or whatever, you don’t have to call it Christ. You can think of it as a master teacher, the messiah, or I don’t know what all the different…and connecting with something with a higher vibration, which is what I try to do in my readings. I know I’m sort of skipping around a bit, but that’s sort of the curse and the blessing of being a little bit more right-brained. Go ahead.

JJ: No, it’s fine. And I’m so glad that you actually just said all that for a couple of different reasons. The first thing is most psychics that I have talked to or worked with or had sessions with, some of them will say sort of “You’re either born with it or you’re not.” So I never like that answer because I don’t necessarily believe. Now, well, I do believe for some people, it comes very easily. Talking about being right-brained, the more right-brained you are, the more you feel. And I think sometimes where I used to get caught up more was, and still is to a certain extent, in explaining and being able to really take people through an experiential analysis of “Is this coming from my head? Is this coming from my subconscious, or am I picking up on something outside of me that then I am having a picture?” And what’s actually happened recently to me with the transition of my cat Doc, I have been working with another medical intuitive who has been on this show in an energy healing kind of way, because I’ve been feeling him very profoundly, like I feel his energy still here. And all of my other animals who have passed on usually come to me in a dream and I feel this little bit of completion and them saying “We’re good. I’m okay. I’m still nonphysical energy, but we’re good.” And then that’s like the completion. And I haven’t had that experience here. And so what’s been happening is I’ve been learning, like you mentioned, in terms of whether it be grounding or how to integrate or it’s the learning, again, from yourself, like how you’re picking up on the messages, the higher vibration. And what he was here to teach me so clearly now, after the fact, is that because I could feel his presence, I had to toggle because I have about equal left and right brains. So I have to toggle between understanding, which is great for me because I’m the one who is going to analyze it and then try to teach it to others, right?

Lorrie: Mm-hm.

JJ: Is that I would think about him in my mind and then it gets sad because I would visualize the past and I would bring pictures up of the past. And what I wasn’t doing and what Lynn helped me to do was to take his physical energy right now as it is in nonphysical form that’s still here with me and to acknowledge it in a different way without my head and to sort of absorb it in my body and to be present with that and to take it in differently. And because of that, it’s like actually bridging the gap between the spiritual beliefs that I have and then the actual integration of the energy of that and like living it in your cells. Does that make sense?

Lorrie: Mm-hm.

JJ: It’s like understanding water or being in water. I get the concept of water. I can see water. I can touch water. But it’s a lot different when you’re actually in it. It resonates in a different, deeper level. And so because of all of that, my cat Domino… We integrated a kitten into our house a couple of weeks ago and I had come back from a trip after she had been here for three days and I wanted to pull her into the room and spend some time with her so she knew she was number one because I could feel her being sad and that this kitten was just annoying her and she felt like she was being replaced. And then the first night we spent together, she was happy that I had locked the door and it was just her and I in the guest room. And then the second night, when I said “Okay, Domino, come on in,” she came in, I shut the door, I turned the light off, I crawled into bed, and she was sitting by the door and she wasn’t coming up on the bed. And so I had a flashlight and I looked up. I was like, “What’s going on? What’s up?” And I literally clearly heard her say to me, “It’s okay, mom. I’m ready to go back in the main bedroom now.”

Lorrie: Aww.

JJ: And so I went, “Oh.” And of course, the normal average person is going to think I’m nuts too by saying that. And it’s like “Did I really hear that or did I make it up?” It literally came so quickly and it felt so true. There wasn’t even a hesitation on any level. And so I opened the door and we went into the bedroom, and that was the first night she and the kitten slept in the bed with both of us.

Lorrie: Wow.

JJ: But it’s a process. It’s almost like exercise in a way where you’re getting stronger. It’s like you’re practicing tuning into those vibrations, to the higher vibrations, to the meditation, to the heart space, to the frequencies. And the more you do it… So I loved everything you just said because it really resonates as well as gives hope for anyone who wants to become more psychic or have that kind of ability, right?

Lorrie: Yes. And one of the things we did in the Battered Boundaries study group is that we were to keep a journal. I mean, I had always kept journals, but we were specifically keeping the journal, I don’t remember exactly how it was phrased, but on our experiences. And as I would write things down, I’d see that I picked up on a lot of things. I was picking up on clues all the time, because for a lot of people, you just know something. That happens to me a lot. I just know. I don’t know how I know. I just know. So for anybody wanting to develop themselves, keeping a journal is a good idea. Noticing all the little things. I wish I still did that because as you were talking, I thought of when my cat Clarissa passed. It was very devastating for me. They’re all special, but some are more like people. But I remember I wrote it down somewhere. There was one point where it was like this big burst of light came out and I felt like it was she as this golden light that just sort of went… I don’t remember if it went into me or where it went, but I remember this golden light and feeling like “Oh, that’s Clarissa.”

So when you were talking, I was also thinking about how we have expectations of how things are supposed to be. If you have a near-death experience, you’re supposed to go… This is how other people have presented it, so you should have it this way, or this is how it’s happened to you in the past. And I think that part about not making it be a certain way. Maybe you can ask the universe have it be a certain way and you can make those negotiations, but you can also… I think part of the right brain, the non-analytical side, is allowing things… like I didn’t expect that burst of golden light to happen. There was a series of things, and then with Clarissa, there was that burst of golden light and I felt something with it.

And one of the other things you sort of alluded to or mentioned has to do with taking action on your perception. Very often, what happens is we think, “I wish I had…” For me, I wish I had done. Or it’s kind of like saying to your inner self when you’re taking action of trust, “I’m going to follow through. I am listening.” It’s like doing inner child work where you take the action of what you get. And I think you were mentioning about “Is it me? Am I picking up?” because we question ourselves. And in fact, I was doing that this morning. A friend was talking about a problem she was having at work and I got an immediate hit on something. And so I’ve been sitting with it because I’m going to have her come over later or whatever and say that person’s name with her name and make sure I’m getting it like I think I am. We call it the psychic science and there’s people trying to make it science, but that’s a whole other conversation in itself because you get it how you get it. And sometimes I will think not to say something at a reading because my mind will be going, “Well, that’s not psychic enough.” But really it’s something the other person didn’t know. It’s my judgment saying it’s not good enough.

So the more that we can do work on ourselves, any kind of transformational process, landmark education, Tony Robbins, whatever it is, therapy, it clears the debris out of the way because sometimes when I read for someone who hasn’t done the inner work, it’s like looking at a really messy closet, like a closet just stuffed with things, and I’m looking for where’s the core. I’ll tell them. I’ll write questions down. And even if they don’t tell me, when they’ve written them down, it’s kind of like it makes it sort of more orderly. But I’m looking and I’m trying to… I’m like pulling out a lot of stuff. What I’m looking for is what are the core? What’s going to really change their life? What is the core issue here? And like all of us, when we want psychic readings (and I’ve certainly done it), I’ll ask for something. If I listen to a reading I’ve had with somebody, it will be on somebody in my life that no longer has any…it’s like not a big deal for me anymore. And what will really last are the spiritual principles that someone has told me to look at in myself or develop in myself or given me an analogy to something in their lives, because whatever it is I asked about that was of the moment will have worked out or not. And we all kind of like psychic phenomenon.When I tell people psychic phenomenon, they really seem to love it when I write about it. I think so much of the psychic and intuitive isn’t quite so dramatic. I mean, maybe it’s dramatic if you think it shouldn’t be happening, but it’s just so many… When I did that journal for the Battered Boundaries, there were so many subtle signals that if I’m writing all the time, I’m picking up. “Oh, I’m noticing this. I’m noticing that.” And then they all contribute.

JJ: And there’s so much coming up for me about how to list in a left-brained way.

Lorrie: Yeah.

JJ: For people who are listening, because you’ve just mentioned some and I’ve been writing them down, how to actually start working on tapping into your psychic ability. So I want to do that. But before we do that, I do need to take a break and thank our sponsors… Okay, Lorrie. So what’s coming up for me big time, you mentioned journaling. And I know I’m going to give the floor back to you, but I want to talk about what I’ve heard and what’s coming to me and then I want you to finish us out with what you think in a structured way, Point 1, 2, 3, whatever is the best way for people to start tapping into their psychic ability. Number one, you mentioned the journaling in order to start picking up on those subtle clues that people are getting. The trust, you mentioned, right? Trusting that what you heard you heard and not second guessing it. And the right-brained. So you talked about that a lot of right-brained people feel more and they’re probably a little closer to their psychic abilities maybe than someone who is left-brained. And then you also mentioned about doing the work and becoming more spiritual and healing wounds and clearing out the debris, so to speak. And a theme that keeps coming up for me in all of this is about being present, because if I have to be present to journal, I have to be reflective to journal. I have to trust in the moment. There has to be a deep calming peace about me and the universe and whatever in that moment without too much overanalyzing in a left-brained kind of way, right? And then the right-brained part is all of our creative emotional being. But I also know that people who are very right-brained can get a little too bogged down in all of those emotions and not necessarily be any more present than someone who is left-brained.

Lorrie: You can be… I’m going to interrupt you for a second because I just want your listeners to get that you don’t have to be calm and peaceful. You can journal “I hate this. I don’t know what’s going on. I’m going to free write. I’m going to set a clock and free write for five minutes and not worry about anything.” And it can be write anything that comes to mind. It’s like letting things out, not keeping them stuffed inside and more will be revealed. And in terms of the right brain, I can be very out of body and it’s not good to do that. It makes it hard to manifest in this life when you’re somewhere else. So I don’t mean to throw you off. I agree. Meditation is a really good one. Keeping track of your dreams.Understanding that if you tend to be intuitive psychic, you may not fit in.Don’t even try to fit in with other people. Don’t try the people pleasing, all of that. It takes patience. It takes practice. You can learn things like remote viewing, which is another topic. But you can learn. There’s literally analytic things they teach people. Will you be as good as somebody that’s naturally good at it? Probably not, but you might end up being better than they are because you’re good at practicing. And people like me don’t like to practice the analytical. Like for the remote viewing, there’s a lot of steps and I’d rather just get to the intuition. So there’s all different ways of approaching. So no matter who you are, you can resonate with your own soul. And we tend to be judgmental. “I shouldn’t be here. I should be there.” And some of that journal can tell you if you can do it listening like an upturned bowl without judgment, like “Okay, this is where I am in this second. Who says it isn’t psychic enough? Who says it isn’t whatever it is enough?”

JJ: And is it possible for someone to have psychic abilities more about themselves than others? I have a friend who is intuitive, but she has a block when it comes to herself.

Lorrie: It’s harder to be in yourself. Sometimes I do it through dreams. I’ll ask. If I need an answer to something, I’ll ask for a dream to give me the answer and then I’ll write the dream down the next day or I’ll do it a few days in a row. It’s harder to do that for yourself, but there are times where we ignore something in ourselves because it doesn’t fit our pictures. And I think that’s why the basis of it is always consciousness to me. The more you can put the past in the past, find out who you are, what your prejudices are, what your angers are, you can clear that closet I was talking about so that more of you can step forward. And one of the things we see in remote viewing, which is where you might look at the envelope as sealed and you’re reading the picture, you’re drawing the picture that’s inside, is we confront this part of the mind that says, “I can’t do this. This is not possible.” And then you go beyond it.

JJ: So what’s coming up for me right now is in the conversation about being psychic for yourself or others and sort of the emotional vibrational frequency. In the law of attraction work with Abraham, there’s a phrase that says, “Get in the vortex and then follow the impulse.” And I guess that to me seems like it would be sort of psychic in a way. It’s almost like get yourself aligned and then follow whatever comes to you, that impulse of action or desire or yearning, so to speak, and whatever it leads you to. And in a way, that’s sort of psychic, right? That’s sort of picking up on the energies that are directing you.

Lorrie: Yeah. And the other thing is that people see the psychic on TV and they think it’s like looking into a window and everything is clear and mapped out. And sometimes it is, but a lot of times, and even for Edgar Cayce and people like that, it’s like we hit up against other problems. It’s not going to be “Oh, I want to be more psychic so I have more control.” No matter what you do on this life, there’s problems and the solving of them or simply being with the untying the little strings and knots of it is how we learn. And we make progress each time. Again, I’m going to go back to Cayce who was told that one of the lives in which he became the most psychic was where he was buried alive. Now, if you asked any of us, do we want that to be more psychic? I think the answer would be no. But he talked about, in the readings that came through, that he brought things forth from different lives that you’ve achieved or you’ve accomplished. And we don’t like to sit and work at problems. Often people want a reading so they won’t have any problems. But there are certain basic tenets of that spirituality: cooperation with others, learning to respond instead of react. There’s a lot. I know we’re limited on time and I tend to go all over the place, so I don’t want to bring too many topics in. So you can bring me back to the list things.

JJ: Yeah. So I’ll reel you into the structure. So, Lorrie, let me list what I have heard and then you fill in any blanks. Journaling, working on yourself, tapping into your right brain and your emotions, trusting. What else would you say someone could do to help tap into their psychic ability?

Lorrie: One of the things that Cayce mentioned is to set an ideal for yourself. So that ideal might be love for the year. You can change it if you want. But love, compassion, whatever, some kind of spiritual ideal. And then you have it like a measure. I mean, he had ways of mapping it up, but you have a kind of measuring tool. Am I being loving? “Yes, I would be loving, but this person did such and such and such, so I’m not going to...” And it doesn’t mean you have to suddenly “Oh, I better behave this way,” but you can look at yourself. It’s one of the ways. What are the guidelines? Because we all think we know everything because we don’t know where our blind spots are. We don’t know what we don’t know. Psychics can fill in the blind spots. One of the ways that I started in the ‘80s, in a tough relationship, I would write. I’d ask God to speak through me and I’d do writing with my hand and then I’d write with my left hand and answer it, and asking the higher power or whatever you want to call it to give me answers. And I got a lot of answers that way. And I learned to be ambidextrous so I could write with both hands. But then I didn’t have to do it with my left hand anymore. So that’s another technique that I didn’t mention earlier and there’s provisos around that.

JJ: And just to be clear, the right hand is because…

Lorrie: I’m right handed. Yeah, you’re right.

JJ: But isn’t it that the left side is the receiving side?

Lorrie: Yeah. But nobody has ever come up quite… There have been psychics who have decided how it should be, like [29:58], how she worked. But supposedly, if you’re right handed, then your non-dominant hand is the hand you use, so it will be the left hand, which normally I do like to have people pull… If we’re doing tarot, I like them to pull cards with their non-dominant hand. But sometimes when they’re left handed, I’ll still ask them to pull with their left hand if I feel. So I do it on a case by case thing. But yeah, the left is the receiving. So yes, you’re right.

JJ: Okay. But I’m glad you corrected me in saying non-dominant hand because that makes more sense.

Lorrie: Yeah.

JJ: Versus just left and right, receiving and giving. Now, if someone wants to have a reading with you, we are going to be having Lorrie back for more than one more show for sure. We’re actually going to be talking about life destiny numbers on the next show, so stay tuned and watch the Freedom Friday schedule for that. But let’s say someone is listening and they’re like, “Wow. Well, I want to have her help me or do a reading for me.” How can they get in touch with you?

Lorrie: Well, they can go to my website which is ilovemypsychic.com. My phone number is there. They can email me at lorrie@lorriekazan.com. I have free newsletters and things. I send out a weekly, or now I think it’s going to be biweekly,Prosperity,Meditation, and I write psychic newsletters. So there’s a lot of free things on my site, a lot of articles. I’ve reviewed books. But to reach me, lorrie@lorriekazan.com.

JJ: And we’re going to have all of Lorrie’s links and everything on the show notes under her page at fit2love.tv. And Lorrie, you do work with people in other countries too, right?

Lorrie: Yeah. I work with people all over the world.

JJ: Okay. Just making sure. The show is currently being downloaded over 125 countries. 80% is the U.S. But I just want to make sure if someone is listening somewhere else that they know they still can work with you.

Lorrie: I work primarily on the phone, so I have a lot of clients in Dubai and India and France and England and then people just locally. So yes, people all over the world.

JJ: Okay. So we have given you plenty of information. You’ve heard me try to streamline in a linear way. So go back and listen to this show again if you need to take better notes about all the different ways of tapping into your psychic ability. But most likely, the one that felt the best to you is the right first step, so definitely check that out. And then look for Lorrie to come back for your life destiny number. Lorrie, thank you so much.

Lorrie: Thank you.